Decision details

Welsh Liberal Democrats Debate

Decision Maker: Plenary - Fourth Assembly

Status: Recommendations approved

Is Key decision?: Yes

Purpose:

Debates are one of the most frequent items of business on the Plenary agenda. Many types of debate are brought forward in Plenary, including:

  • Opposition party debates on a topic of their choice;

Other than in the case of Government debates, the time allocated for all other types of debates and their frequency are determined by the Business Committee

Decision:

The item started at 17:17

 

Voting on the motion was deferred until Voting Time.

 

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

NDM5085 Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes that:

 

a) the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee has not agreed a budget with the Wales Ambulance Service for the 2012/13 financial year, as of 31/10/2012;

 

b) the Welsh Ambulance Service is unable to prepare proper service plans due to a lack of financial clarity; and

 

c) for the last four successive months the Welsh Ambulance Service has failed to meet its all-Wales target of 65% of Category A (immediately life-threatening) calls receiving an ambulance response time within 8 minutes.

 

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to:

 

a) ensure that the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee agrees a budget with the Welsh Ambulance Service Trust for the 2012/13 year as a matter of urgency;

 

b) outline the role of the Wales Ambulance Service Trust with regard to service reconfiguration and the impact that reconfiguration could have on their budget and performance;

 

c) urgently assess the support available to the Wales Ambulance Service so they can meet their agreed 65% response time targets; and

d) urgently review arrangements whereby the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, a committee comprising representatives of all the Local Health Boards, has to agree the budget for another trust.

 

For

Abstain

Against

Total

10

0

31

41

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete point 1.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

20

41

Amendment 1 was agreed.

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

In point 1a delete ‘has’ and replace with ‘had’

 

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

19

0

21

40

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

In point 1b delete ‘is’ and replace with ‘was’

 

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

21

41

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete sub-point 2a.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 4:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

41

0

0

41

Amendment 4 was agreed.

 

As amendment 4 was moved, amendment 5 was de-selected.

 

Amendment 6 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Delete sub-point 2d and replace with:

 

Calls on the Minister to take responsibility for setting the Welsh Ambulance Service’s budget.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

21

41

Amendment 6 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 7 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete sub-point 2d. and replace with: ‘continue to assess arrangements between the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, Local Health Boards and WAST, to ensure robust governance and funding arrangements remain in place.’

 

A vote was taken on amendment 7:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

19

40

Amendment 7 was agreed.

 

Amendment 8 - William Graham (South Wales East)

 

Add at the end of motion:

 

Notes the critical role played by the Wales Air Ambulance Service in assisting the Wales Ambulance Service to respond to emergencies in Wales.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 8:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

41

0

0

41

Amendment 8 was agreed.

 

Amendment 9 - William Graham (South Wales East)

 

Add at the end of motion:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government to work with the Wales Air Ambulance Service in the planning of emergency care and to provide adequate direct funding for those services, in order to assist the Wales Ambulance Service to meet its key objectives.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 9:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

21

41

Amendment 9 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 10 - William Graham (South Wales East)

 

Add at the end of motion:

 

Regrets that the Welsh NHS is facing the largest real-term health cuts of any of the UK nations and that this has the potential to have a detrimental impact on the Welsh Ambulance Service.

 

A vote was taken on amendment 10:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

10

6

25

41

Amendment 10 was not agreed.

 

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

 

NDM5085 Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Calls on the Welsh Government to:

 

a) outline the role of the Wales Ambulance Service Trust with regard to service reconfiguration and the impact that reconfiguration could have on their budget and performance;

 

b) urgently assess the support available to the Wales Ambulance Service so they can meet their agreed 65% response time targets; and

 

c) continue to assess arrangements between the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, Local Health Boards and WAST, to ensure robust governance and funding arrangements remain in place.

 

2. Notes the critical role played by the Wales Air Ambulance Service in assisting the Wales Ambulance Service to respond to emergencies in Wales.

 

For

Abstain

Against

Total

31

0

10

41

The motion as amended was agreed.

Publication date: 07/11/2012

Date of decision: 07/11/2012

Decided at meeting: 07/11/2012 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly

 

 

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