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The item started at 17.07

 

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

NDM5545 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes the report of the Commission on Public Service Governance and Delivery.

 

2. Notes that the report does not deal comprehensively with public services, particularly the health service, due to the terms of reference set down by the Welsh Government.

 

3. Believes that there is a need to provide a democratic mandate for a strategic long-term package of public service delivery reform.

 

4. Further believes that the balance of competencies and delivery of public services between national, regional and community government is best debated and resolved by means of party manifestos during the next Assembly election.

For	Abstain	Against	Total
8	0	39	47

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

 

Delete point 2.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	23	47

Amendment 1 was agreed.

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Insert as new point 3 and renumber accordingly:

 

Believes that public services would be improved by the increased accountability provided by a fair voting system.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	35	47

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Notes that the report calls for an enhancement of the involvement of citizens and communities in the co-production of the development and delivery of services.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
47	0	0	47

Amendment 3 was agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Notes that the report states ‘the third sector can provide access to users’ experience of services and can help to ensure the systematic and sustainable engagement of communities as well as the expertise of the sector in diverse policy and service areas’.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 4:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
47	0	0	47

Amendment 4 was agreed.

 

Amendment 5 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

Add as new point at end of motion:

 

Recognises the need for full cost evaluations before any action is taken on structural changes to public services.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 5:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
23	0	24	47

Amendment 5 was not agreed.

 

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

 

NDM5545 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes the report of the Commission on Public Service Governance and Delivery.

 

2. Believes that there is a need to provide a democratic mandate for a strategic long-term package of public service delivery reform.

 

3. Further believes that the balance of competencies and delivery of public services between national, regional and community government is best debated and resolved by means of party manifestos during the next Assembly election.

 

4. Notes that the report calls for an enhancement of the involvement of citizens and communities in the co-production of the development and delivery of services.

 

5. Notes that the report states ‘the third sector can provide access to users’ experience of services and can help to ensure the systematic and sustainable engagement of communities as well as the expertise of the sector in diverse policy and service areas’.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
47	0	0	47

The motion as amended was agreed.