Finance Committee

Y Pwyllgor Cyllid









To consultees on the attached list





 Cardiff Bay


CF99 1NA


August 2012

Dear Colleagues,


A call for information – Welsh Government draft budget proposals for 2013-14


The Committees of the National Assembly are seeking information to inform their scrutiny of the Welsh Government’s 2013-14 Draft Budget Proposals.  We are interested in exploring expectations of the budget allocations, particularly in light of progress against the Welsh Government’s ‘Programme for Government’ commitments, and whether you have concerns regarding particular commitments/allocations and where you would like to see resources focused or specific areas prioritised.


We do not know as yet, what the draft budget proposals will look like, as they will not be published until October 2012.  However, the Programme for Government Annual Report was published in May 2012, and shows progress against the Government’s commitments.  In addition to this, indicative allocations for the 2013-14 financial year were published in the Final Budget 2013-14.

In this paper we have detailed four specific questions. You can answer any/all of these, or just let us know in general terms about your concerns and expectations of the draft budget.

The Finance Committee looks at the Welsh Government’s budget from a strategic, overarching perspective.  We also work with the other Assembly Committees to ensure that proposals for specific Ministerial portfolios are considered in detail.  Committees will each undertake their own focussed evidence sessions with the relevant Ministers in order to examine the areas of the budget that fall within their respective remits, and then report to Finance Committee, detailing any concerns they have. 

Some Committees are also making progress on more subject-specific stakeholder engagement exercises, including speed-dating sessions, stakeholder discussions, and engagement with young people.

This consultation is being undertaken to inform both the Finance Committee and the other Assembly committees. If the information you provide is specific to a particular area, we will pass that information on to the appropriate committee(s) to inform their scrutiny of individual Ministers. 

You can find out more information about these committees, along with background information about the Finance Committee, what the Welsh Government draft budget is, and how you can access the Welsh Government’s indicative figures for 2013-14 in annex 1.


Providing information to the Committee


Interested parties are invited to submit written evidence to the Clerk of the Finance Committee at the above address, to arrive by Friday 14 September 2012. If you wish to contribute but are concerned that you won’t be able to meet this deadline, please speak with the Clerk of the Committee on 029 2089 8597.


If possible, please supply an electronic version in MS Word or Rich Text format, by e mail to by Friday 14 September 2012.


Please begin your submission by providing some information about yourself, or your organisation, before setting out your views and experiences in relation to some or all of the following areas.


What we'd like from you: consultation questions

  1. Looking at the indicative budget allocations for 2013-14, do you have any concerns from a strategic, overarching perspective?
  2. Looking at the indicative budget allocations for 2013-14, do you have any concerns about any specific areas?
  3. What expectations do you have of the 2013-14 draft budget proposals? What spending commitments and priorities would you like to see reflected in the 2013-14 draft budget proposals?
  4. The new Welsh Government has published its Programme for Government.  We will be using this document to guide our scrutiny of the 2013-14 draft budget. What changes would you propose to ensure that the budget delivers the objectives set out in the Programme for Government?

The Committee has invited submissions from those on the attached distribution list (Annex 2).  However, we would be grateful if you could forward a copy of the letter to any individuals or organisations that are not included but who you think might wish to contribute. A copy of this letter has been placed on the National Assembly’s website with an open invitation to submit views.


Disclosure of Information


Witnesses should be aware that once written evidence has been submitted to the Committee it is treated as the property of the Committee. It is the Committee’s intention to place written papers on its website, and may subsequently be printed with the report. The National Assembly will not publish information which it considers to be personal data.


However, in the event of a request for information submitted under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, it may be necessary to disclose the information that you provide. This may include information which has previously been removed by the National Assembly for publication purposes.


If you are providing any information, other than personal data, which you feel is not suitable for public disclosure, or if you do not wish your identity, as author of the evidence, to be disclosed, this must be clearly identified and it is up to you to stipulate which parts should not be published, and to provide a reasoned argument to support this. The National Assembly will take this into account when publishing information or responding to requests for information.


Further information about the Finance Committee and its call for information can be found at:


Yours sincerely


Jocelyn Davies

Chair, Finance Committee


Annex 1- Background information


Who are we?

The Finance Committee is a cross party committee of the National Assembly for Wales, made up of Members from all four political parties represented at the Assembly. 

The Committee is not part of the Welsh Government.  Rather, the Committee is responsible for reporting on proposals laid before the Assembly by Welsh Ministers relating to the use of resources. 

Who are the other Committees involved in scrutinising the budget?

The other Committees involved in scrutinising the budget are:


What is the Welsh Government’s draft budget?


The draft budget proposals must contain details of the amount of resources the Welsh Government proposes to use in the following financial year and indicative figures for the subsequent two financial years. More specifically it should set out:


·         The use of resources by the Welsh Government, Assembly Commission, Auditor General and Public Services Ombudsman.


·         Income to be retained by those organisations (rather than being surrendered to the Welsh Consolidated Fund).


·         Cash to be withdrawn from the Welsh Consolidated Fund by those organisations.

In recent years, the Welsh Government has also provided a narrative document which further explains detailed allocations to government departments, as well as reserves and other overall allocations.







Why aren’t we doing this consultation after the Welsh Government’s draft budget proposals have been published?

Responding to this consultation will not preclude stakeholders from also providing information, evidence, concerns and suggested areas for scrutiny to National Assembly for Wales Committees after the publication of the Welsh Government’s draft budget proposals (on 2 October 2012).

However, Committees will usually begin scrutinising Government Ministers on the content on the draft budget 1-2 weeks after it has been published, with a view to passing on their findings to the Finance Committee in late October. The Finance Committee is itself required to report on the draft budget by 8 November.

This means that there is usually very limited time (1-2 weeks) for stakeholders to suggest areas of concern to Committees. By doing this consultation now, we hope stakeholders will have more time to consider the potential impact of the budget.

What are the indicative allocations for 2013-14?


The Welsh Government’s Final Budget 2012-13 – including indicative allocations for 2013-14 – and explanatory documents can be downloaded here:;jsessionid=8JKDQQpXSf1m8TfnvZ634yBxywmnkrp5JjDQ2sGf10tZJtJv8DLn!545803488?lang=en&status=open



The Welsh Government’s most recent progress report on the Programme for Government can be seen here:;jsessionid=8JKDQQpXSf1m8TfnvZ634yBxywmnkrp5JjDQ2sGf10tZJtJv8DLn!545803488?lang=en&status=open












Annex 2


List of consultees


Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board

Action for Children


Age Cymru

All Wales Ethnic Minority Association

Aneurin Bevan Health Board

Anti Poverty Network Cyrmu

Arts Council of Wales

Asian Women's Group

Association of Directors for Social Services Cymru

ATL Cymru

Bangladeshi Welfare Association

Barnardos Cymru

Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

Bevan Foundation

Big Lottery Fund - Wales

Black Association of Women Stepping Out

Black Environment Network

Black Voluntary Sector Network Wales

Board of Community Health Councils in Wales

British Association of Social Workers Cymru

British Dental Association

British Medical Association

British Orthodontic Society

British Red Cross

Business in Focus


Capital Region Tourism

Carbon Trust Wales

Cardiff & Vale University Health Board

Care Forum Wales

Careers Wales

Carers Wales

CBI Wales

Chartered Institute of Management Accountants

Chartered Society of Physiotherapists

Children in Wales

Children’s Commissioner for Wales

Chwarae Teg

Citizens Advice Bureau - Cymru

Clybiau Plant Cymru Kids Clubs

College of Occupational Therapists

Community Pharmacy Wales

Confederation of Passenger Transport

Construction Skills

Consumer Focus Wales

Contact a Family Wales

Country Land and Business Association (CLA)

Countryside Council for Wales (CCW)

Crossroads Care Wales



Cwm Taf Health Board

Cymorth Cymru

Cymru Yfory

Deaf Association Wales

Disability Wales

Disabled Children Matter

DTA Wales

Energy Saving Trust Wales

Environment Agency Wales

Equality & Human Rights Commission in Wales


European Commission

Farmers’ Union of Wales (FUW)

Forestry Commission Wales

Freight Transport Association

FSB Cymru

Funky Dragon

General Dental Council

General Medical Council

GMB Union

Governors Wales




Higher Education Wales

Hywel Dda Health Board

Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants

MEWN Cymru

Money Advice Service

Mother's Union in Wales



National Farmers’ Union Cymru (NFU)

National Offender Management Service

National Parks

Neonatal Nurses Association

Network Rail

North Wales Race Equality Network


NUS Wales

NUT Cymru

Older People’s Commissioner for Wales

Pakistan Association of Newport & Gwent Welsh Asian Council

Passenger Focus Wales

Play Wales

Powys Teaching Health Board

Public Health Wales NHS Trust

Race Equality First

Refugee Voice Wales


Royal British Legion

Royal College of General Practitioners

Royal College of Midwives

Royal College of Nursing

Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh

Royal College of Physicians London

Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow

Royal Pharmaceutical Society



Save the Children Cymru



The National Autism Society Cymru

The Prince's Trust - Cymru

Tros Gynnal





Unite Union

Velindre NHS Trust

Voice Cymru

Voices from Care

Wales Environment Link


Welsh Ambulance Services NHS Trust

The Welsh NHS Confederation

Welsh Women’s Aid