Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - The Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 4 June 2018

Meeting time: 15.09 - 16.32
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Assembly Members:

Nick Ramsay AM (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM

Vikki Howells AM

Rhianon Passmore AM

Lee Waters AM


Andrew Slade, Welsh Government

Simon Jones, Welsh Government

Wales Audit Office:

Huw Vaughan Thomas – Audior General for Wales

Matthew Mortlock

Committee Staff:

Fay Bowen (Clerk)

Meriel Singleton (Second Clerk)

Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk)

Sian Thomas (Researcher)



1       Care experienced children and young people: Consideration of key issues

1.1 The Members discussed the key issues paper and requested that an initial draft of possible recommendations be prepared for their consideration.



2       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

2.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to the Committee.

2.2 Apologies were received from Neil Hamilton AM and Adam Price AM. There were no substitutes.



3       Paper(s) to note

3.1 The papers were noted.

3.2 The Committee discussed the contents of the letter on the challenges of digitalisation with Andrew Slade, the Director General for Economy, Skills and Natural Resources. Following the evidence session, Members asked that the Clerks discussed the possibility of a rapporteur group being established together with Members from the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee to take this issue forward.



3.1   Auditor General for Wales Report(s): First year review of how public bodies in Wales are implementing Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015



3.2   NHS Wales Informatics Services: Additional information from Aneurin Bevan University Health Board (10 May 2018)



3.3   Challenges of Digitalisation: Correspondence from the Welsh Government (16 May 2018)



4       Intra-Wales - Cardiff to Anglesey - Air Service: Evidence Session

4.1 Members received evidence from Andrew Slade, Director General, Economy, Skills and Natural Resources, and Simon Jones, Director, Economic Infrastructure, Welsh Government on the Intra Wales – Cardiff to Anglesey – Air Service.

4.2 Andrew Slade agreed to send details of the punctuality performance of the air service and the number of cancellations for technical reasons in comparison with the performance of the service under other operators since 2014.



5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

5.1 The motion was agreed.



6       Intra-Wales - Cardiff to Anglesey - Air Service: Consideration of evidence received

6.1 Members considered the evidence received and agreed to seek details of the contract, when awarded.