Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 4 December 2017

Meeting time: 14.50 - 16.42
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Assembly Members:

Nick Ramsay AM (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM

Neil Hamilton AM

Rhianon Passmore AM

Adam Price AM

Lee Waters AM


Dr Andrew Goodall, Welsh Government

Frances Duffy, Welsh Government

Wales Audit Office:

Huw Vaughan Thomas – Auditor General for Wales

Dave Thomas

Mike Usher

Committee Staff:

Meriel Singleton (Second Clerk)

Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk)

Katie Wyatt (Legal Adviser)



1       The Welsh Government's initial funding of the Circuit of Wales project: Correspondence with the Welsh Government

1.1        Members considered and discussed the correspondence from the Welsh Government and the Auditor General for Wales. 

1.2        Members agreed that the Chair will write to the Permanent Secretary with their concerns and also advise that they may wish to take oral evidence from her.



2       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

2.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to Committee.

2.1 Apologies were received from Vikki Howells AM. There was no substitution.



3       Paper(s) to note

3.1 The papers were noted.



4       Hospital Catering and Patient Nutrition: Evidence Session with the Welsh Government

4.1 The Committee scrutinised Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General/NHS Chief Executive and Frances Duffy, Director, Primary Care & Innovation, Welsh Government on the implementation of recommendations arising from the previous Committee’s and this Committee’s reports on hospital catering and patient nutrition.

4.2 Dr Goodall agreed to send further information regarding the timelines for the rollout of the new national system for social care (WCCIS) and the All Wales catering system.




5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

5.1 The motion was agreed.



6       Hospital Catering and Patient Nutrition: Consideration of evidence received

6.1 Members considered the evidence received and agreed to revisit when the Auditor General’s report on the NHS Wales Informatics Services which is scheduled to be published in January 2018.