Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 13 March 2017

Meeting time: 14.00 - 16.42
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Assembly Members:

Nick Ramsay AM (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM

Neil Hamilton AM

Mike Hedges AM

Rhianon Passmore AM

Lee Waters AM


John Howells, Welsh Government

Shan Morgan, Welsh Government

David Richards, Welsh Government

Ian Williams, Welsh Government

Wales Audit Office:

Matthew Mortlock

Nick Selwyn

Mike Usher

Committee Staff:

Fay Bowen (Clerk)

Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk)

Katie Wyatt (Legal Adviser)

Owen Holzinger (Researcher)

Jonathan Baxter (Researcher)





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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1        The Chair welcomed the Members to Committee.

1.2        Apologies were received from Neil McEvoy AM. There was no substitute.




2       Paper(s) to note


2.1 The papers were noted.




2.1   NHS Waiting Times for Elective Care in Wales and Orthopaedic Services: Letter from the Welsh Government (6 March 2017)



2.2   Senior Management Pay: Public Services Staff Commission Report



3       Introductory Session: Welsh Government Permanent Secretary


3.1 The Committee held an introductory session with Shan Morgan, the new Permanent Secretary at the Welsh Government.

3.2 The Permanent Secretary agreed to consider the challenges digitalisation will bring and would report back with her views.




4       Inquiry into Regulatory oversight of Housing Associations: Evidence Session 12


4.1 The Committee took evidence from John Howells, Director of Housing and Ian Williams, Deputy Director (Sector Development), Welsh Government as part of its inquiry into Regulatory oversight of Housing Associations.




5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:


5.1 The motion was agreed and was extended to cover Item 1 of the meeting on 28 March 2017.




6       Inquiry into Regulatory oversight of Housing Associations: Consideration of evidence received


6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.




7       Coastal flood and erosion risk management in Wales: Consideration of draft report


7.1 The Committee considered the draft report.

7.2 A few minor changes were suggested and a revised version will be emailed to Members.




8       Forward Work Programme - Summer 2017


8.1 The Committee considered and discussed the summer work programme.