Health and Social Care Committee


Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 1 - Senedd




Meeting date:

Wednesday, 20 February 2013




Meeting time:

09:01 - 12:28




This meeting can be viewed on Senedd TV at:



Concise Minutes:




Assembly Members:


Mark Drakeford (Chair)

Mick Antoniw

Rebecca Evans

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn R Price

Jenny Rathbone

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams








Lesley Griffiths, Minister for Health and Social Services

Pat Vernon, Welsh Government

Grant Duncan, Welsh Government

Sarah Wakeling, Welsh Government

Phil Walton, NHS Blood and Transplant






Committee Staff:


Sarah Beasley (Clerk)

Sarah Sargent (Deputy Clerk)

Steve George (Clerk)

Victoria Paris (Researcher)

Joanest Jackson (Legal Advisor)

Robin Wilkinson (Researcher)

Gwyn Griffiths (Legal Advisor)







View the meeting transcript.



1.  Introductions, apologies and substitutions


1.1 Apologies were received from Vaughan Gething.




2.  Human Transplantation (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence session 11

2.1 The Committee heard evidence from Lesley Griffiths AM, the Minister for Health and Social Services; Dr Grant Duncan, Deputy Director Medical Directorate, Welsh Government; Pat Vernon, Policy Lead for the Bill; and Sarah Wakeling, Legal Services, Welsh Government.




3.  Human Transplantation (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence session 12


3.1 The Committee heard evidence from Phil Walton, Team Manager (South Wales SNODs), Donor Care and Co-ordination, NHS Blood and Transplant.




4.  Papers to note


4.1 The Committee noted the minutes of the previous meeting, the Committee’s forward work programme, and the supplementary evidence from both Professor Vivienne Harpwood and the Kidney Wales Foundation in relation to the Human Transplantation (Wales) Bill.




5.  Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business: Consideration of the Draft Report


5.1 The Committee resolved, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi), to meet in private for item 6.




6.  Recovery of Medical Costs for Asbestos Diseases (Wales) Bill: Consideration of the Draft Report


6.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.