Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 10 June 2019

Meeting time: 13.20 - 15.15
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:





Assembly Members:

Nick Ramsay AM (Chair)

Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM

Vikki Howells AM

Rhianon Passmore AM

Adam Price AM

Jenny Rathbone AM


Dr Andrew Goodall, Welsh Government

Dr Chris Jones, Welsh Government

Wales Audit Office:

Adrian Crompton – Auditor General for Wales

Dave Thomas

Committee Staff:

Meriel Singleton (Second Clerk)



1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the Committee.



2       Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Evidence Session with the Welsh Government

2.1 Members received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General of Health and Social Services and Chief Executive of NHS Wales and Dr Chris Jones, Deputy Chief Medical Officer as part of the inquiry into the Management of follow up outpatients across Wales.

2.2 Dr Andrew Goodall agreed to:

·         Provide a list of the improvements that each health board is being asked to make

·         Share the feedback from the Ophthalmology Implementation Board on the outcomes of the new eye care measures

·         Share examples of the pieces of work that clinicians are leading on as part of the improvements driven by the national planned care programme and its associated speciality boards.



3       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

3.1 The motion was agreed.



4       Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Consideration of evidence received

4.1 Members considered the evidence received.



5       Forward Work Programme

5.1 Following the First Minister’s decision not to proceed with M4 relief road motorway project, as announced on 4 June 2019, and the publication of details of the project costs which now amount to £114m, Members agreed that the Public Accounts Committee has a role in examining this expenditure and agreed to undertake a short piece of work on this matter.





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