Concise Minutes - Children, Young People and Education Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 1 - Senedd

Meeting date: Wednesday, 12 July 2017

Meeting time: 09.21 - 11.27
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Assembly Members:

Lynne Neagle AM (Chair)

Michelle Brown AM

Hefin David AM

John Griffiths AM

Llyr Gruffydd AM

Darren Millar AM

Julie Morgan AM

Mark Reckless AM


Vaughan Gething AM, Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport

Karen Jewell, Welsh Government

Joanna Jordan, Welsh Government

Committee Staff:

Llinos Madeley (Clerk)

Sarah Bartlett (Deputy Clerk)

Rebekah James (Researcher)



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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

The Chair welcomed Members. There were no apologies.


2       Inquiry into Perinatal Mental Health - Evidence session 11

The Committee heard evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport. The Cabinet Secretary agreed to provide a note on the following:


·         Timescales on when a full Health Board data picture will be available which includes the number of women who have been referred and seen a psychologist and those referred but are unable to access one.

·         An update on the availability of access to face to face talking treatment.

·         A note on the evidence given by the British Psychological Society that, due to the absence of a consultant perinatal psychologist in Wales, supervision outside Wales is having to be sought by those delivering perinatal psychology services in Wales.  

·         An update following the joint Committee meeting on 25 July to discuss the review of demand tier 4 services.

·         A note on any research available on the impact of being unable to breastfeed, and whether this can be a trigger for postnatal depression, and what steps are being taken by frontline staff to support breastfeeding mothers.


3       Paper(s) to note

The papers were noted.


3.1   Note on the All Wales Perinatal Mental Health Steering Group

3.2   Letter from the Chair to the Cabinet Secretary for and Economy and Infrastructure - Learner Travel in Wales





4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for remainder of the meeting.

The Motion was agreed.




5       Inquiry into Perinatal Mental Health - Discussion of evidence

The Committee discussed the evidence they had received throughout the inquiry. A draft report would be considered at the start of the autumn term.