Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee


Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 2 - Senedd




Meeting date:

Wednesday, 22 April 2015




Meeting time:

09.04 - 12.10




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Concise Minutes:





Assembly Members:


Christine Chapman AM (Chair)

Peter Black AM

Alun Davies AM

Jocelyn Davies AM

Janet Finch-Saunders AM

John Griffiths AM

Mike Hedges AM

Gwyn R Price AM

Rhodri Glyn Thomas AM








Lesley Griffiths AM, The Minister for Communities and Tackling Poverty, Welsh Government

Simon White, Welsh Government

Neil Buffin, Welsh Government






Committee Staff:


Sarah Beasley (Clerk)

Claire Morris (Second Clerk)

Elizabeth Wilkinson (Second Clerk)

Chloe Davies (Deputy Clerk)

Sarah Sargent (Deputy Clerk)

Matthew Richards (Legal Adviser)

Helen Roberts (Legal Adviser)

Jonathan Baxter (Researcher)

David Smith (Expert Adviser)






View the meeting transcript.




1   Introductions, apologies and substitutions

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting.

1.2 Apologies for Absence were received from Mark Isherwood and Gwenda Thomas AM. John Griffiths AM substituted for Gwenda Thomas AM in accordance with Standing Order 17.48.

1.3 Alun Davies AM and Janet Finch-Saunders AM declared interests as landlords in the private rented sector.




2   Renting Homes (Wales) Bill: Evidence session 1 - Minister for Communities and Tackling Poverty

2.1 The Committee received evidence from Lesley Griffiths AM, Minister for Communities and Tackling Poverty, and her officials.


2.2 The Minister agreed to write to the Committee with:

·         an explanation of how the definition of ‘carer’ contained within the Renting Homes (Wales) Bill differs to the definition used in the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014, and the reasons for these differences; and

·         details of any evidence relating to the number of retaliatory eviction claims in Wales.




3   Papers to note

3.1 The Committee noted the Paper.




4   Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting (discussion of evidence received under item 2, and consideration of the draft report on the Local Government (Wales) Bill)

4.1 The Committee agreed the motion.




5   Renting Homes (Wales) Bill: discussion of evidence received in session 1

5. The Committee discussed the evidence received from the Minister for Communities and Tackling Poverty and her officials.




5.1 Renting Homes (Wales) Bill: consultation responses




6   Local Government (Wales) Bill: consideration of draft report

6. The Committee discussed the Draft Report.