Enterprise and Business Committee


Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 1 - Senedd




Meeting date:

Thursday, 3 April 2014




Meeting time:

09.00 - 15.20




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Concise Minutes:




Assembly Members:


William Graham AM (Chair)

Keith Davies AM

Dafydd Elis-Thomas AM

Rhun ap Iorwerth AM

Julie James AM

Ann Jones AM

Eluned Parrott AM

Joyce Watson AM








Carwyn Jones AM, First Minister

Edwina Hart AM, Minister for Economy, Science and Transport, Minister for Economy, Science and Transport

Matthew Brown, Communities Investment Fund Manager, WCVA

Professor Andrew Davies, Welsh Co-operative and Mutuals Commission

Gary Davies, Welsh Government

Phil Fiander, Director of Programmes, Welsh Council for Voluntary Action

James Price, Welsh Government

Professor Colin Riordan, Cardiff University

Anne-Marie Rogan, Swansea YMCA

Derek Walker, Wales Co-operative Centre






Committee Staff:


Siân Phipps (Clerk)

Claire Morris (Second Clerk)

Olga Lewis (Deputy Clerk)

Ben Stokes (Researcher)






View the meeting transcript.



1    Introductions, apologies and substitutions

1.1 Apologies were received from David Rees AM, Byron Davies AM and Mick Antoniw AM. Ann Jones AM substituted for Mick Antoniw AM.




2    Inquiry into EU funding opportunities 2014-2020 (session 11) (09.15-09.45)

2.1. The Committee took evidence from Professor Colin Riordan, President and Vice Chancellor, Cardiff University.




3    Social Enterprises (10.00-11.00)

3.1. The Committee took evidence from Phil Fiander, WCVA, Director of Programmes; Matthew Brown, WCVA, Communities Investment Manager and Anne-Marie Rogan, Swansea YMCA, Chief Executive.




4    Social Enterprises (11.00-12.00)

4.1 The Committee took evidence from Edwina Hart AM, Minister for Economy, Science and Transport, Welsh Government; Professor Andrew Davies, Chair of the Welsh Co-operative and Mutuals Commission and Derek Walker, Chief Executive Officer of the Wales Co-operative Centre.


4.2 The Minister agreed to provide the performance indicators for the Welsh Government’s support for social enterprises in the six-month update to the Committee.




5    Inquiry into the Welsh Government's approach to the promotion of trade and inward investment (14.00-15.00)

5.1 The Committee took evidence from the Rt. Hon Carwyn Jones AM, The First Minister of Wales and the Minister for Economy, Science and Transport, Welsh Government. They were supported by James Price, Director General, Economy, Science and Transport, Welsh Government and Gary Davies, Head of European and External Affairs Division, Welsh Government.


5.2  The Minister agreed to provide:


-     Note on the overall numbers of the permanent UKTI staff based in Wales and how these numbers compare with the situation in Scotland;


-     Note on the proportion of foreign owned companies operating in Wales that receive direct aftercare support from the Welsh Government as compared to those that receive support from UKTI. Also, an indication of those companies who are engaged with on a regular basis, i.e. at least once every six months, and those that are less regularly engaged with;


-     Note on the  Welsh Government’s intended approach to recording and publishing  inward investment figures in light of changes in the definition used by UKTI (i.e. 10 per cent foreign ownership, rather than 50 per cent) and how the threshold of percentage of foreign ownership used by UKTI compares with other European nations.





6    Papers to note

6.1 The Committee noted the following supporting documents:


Private paper (further information on the Technology Strategy Board)




7    Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Consideration of the options for a visit as part of the Inquiry into Tourism, webchat with Higher Education/Further Education students and webchat on gender and STEM.