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(This letter reports the deliberations of the National Assembly\222s Heal\
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draft Mental Health Bill. I )Tj
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(am writing similarly to Jane Hutt AM, Minister for Health and Social Ser\
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(All the organisations submitted written evidence, but the Zito Trust was\
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(For ease of reference I attach copies of the written evidence we receive\
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(Members agreed that the current legislation needs to be updated to refle\
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(It was suggested that the Bill had been designed to deal with the needs \
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agreed that it was not )Tj
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(The evidence presented to the Committee was almost exclusively opposed t\
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service users, their families, )Tj
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(carers, voluntary organisations, mental health professionals and the leg\
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(objections were based on the grounds that the key provisions of the Bill\
conflicted with the aims of the )Tj
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e have been developed in )Tj
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(consultation with the stakeholders and are based on agreed principles of\
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(The majority of Members had concerns that the broad criteria set out in \
clause 6 do not allow for )Tj
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(All members were concerned about the implications for resources to imple\
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(Finally, the Committee would like to register its concern that the consu\
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