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(The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting. Apologies had been received \
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(Ryder AM, Peter Rogers AM and Dharmendra Kanani of the Commission for Ra\
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(Equality. Alun Thomas was representing Will Bee from the Disability Righ\
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(Minister\222s Report)Tj
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(There were no oral additions to the Minister\222s written report. )Tj
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(It was noted that members of the \221right to vote\222 campaign had writ\
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(Open Government requesting a meeting to look at ways to encourage member\
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(It was noted that the creation of a Single Equality Body would dramatica\
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(The committee considered the proposed implementation of each recommendat\
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(Rec.1 and 2: The statutory equality duty was one of the good things abou\
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(Assembly model of devolution and should be shared with the UK Parliament\
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(Rec. 3 and 4: There was a consensus that consideration of equality of op\
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(Rec. 5: LGB Forum noted concerns about its lack of formal status or perm\
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(Rec. 7: There was concern over the reference to \221minimum standards\222\
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(The committee would be informed when the Panel of Chairs would be consid\
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(The quarterly reports of consultative bodies would be provided to the co\
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(The committee considered a paper on Assembly recruitment and selection. \
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(details of the Assembly\222s planned outreach programme to encourage rec\
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(The committee welcomed the outreach strategy, noting in particular the i\
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(The Swansea Bay Racial Equality Council had started a community developm\
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(There was no measure of the number of Welsh speakers in the Assembly wor\
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(There were particular sensitivities in monitoring sexual orientation. Th\
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(The committee discussed how perceptions of ageism might affect older peo\
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(The committee still had concerns about parts of the process used to recr\
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(DRC pointed out that using psychometric testing and CVs, rather than ass\
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(It was also noted that the job description did not mention the important\
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(The Minister agreed with the approach taken in the paper in not revealin\
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(The chair asked the Minister to note the committee\222s concerns in desi\
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(The Committee would receive an annual evaluation report of the outreach \
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(Peter Gregory would meet with the LGB Forum to discuss the implications \
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(The committee agreed to break from 10.35 \226 10.52)Tj
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(Item 5)Tj
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(Gypsy Traveller Review \226 Report back on site visits)Tj
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(Paper: EOC-01-03\(p4\) \226 Site Visit Reports )Tj
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(Members of the Committee and the Clerk presented reports of their visits\
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(Lorraine Barrett AM said that the site in Shepherd\222s Hill, Pontypool,\
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(Helen Mary Jones AM noted that like Shepherd\222s Hill, the site at Pen-\
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(freedom of choice for the provision of utilities. Receiving post was als\
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(Tim Wilson, one of the expert advisers to the Gypsy Traveller Review, po\
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(The Clerk noted that there was not much to add to the paper before the c\
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(Gypsy Traveller Review \226 Presentation from young Gypsy Travellers )Tj
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(Anne Crowley of Save the Children UK was the convener of the All-Wales G\
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(Anne Josephine and Barbara McDonagh were 14-year-old roadside travellers\
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(Stacey McDonagh had previously lived in the Swansea area but was living \
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(Helen Connors lived on the Shire Newton site in Cardiff and spoke to the\
committee about )Tj
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(Tom and Waltie, two 12-year-old cousins from Cardiff, also spoke to the \
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(Johnny Doran and Paddy Berry, 14 year olds from Wrexham, then spoke to t\
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(Johnny later made the point that settled young people might not get the \
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(Johnny talked about discrimination. For example when walking in the loca\
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(Johnny\222s school, St Joseph\222s, was very supportive of what travelle\
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(The committee asked if they had considered college but Johnny said he wo\
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(Johnny had had problems with the warden on his site after he had asked h\
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(On the Wrexham site more boys than girls went to school, the women tende\
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(Paddy lived in a house. He was not happy on the site, because at night y\
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(Johnny wouldn\222t want to live in a house because he would be isolated \
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(Johnny said that he didn\222t feel right living in a house, but in five \
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(A bigger survey of young Gypsy Travellers was being carried out by Save \
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(The committee thanked the young people for coming to speak to them, and \
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(SCF UK would send the results of its full survey of young gypsy travelle\
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(All views and comments would be taken into consideration for inclusion i\
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(Presentation by young people to mark International Day of Disabled Peopl\
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(For the 2003 European Year of Disabled People the booklet could be used \
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(Stephen and John were at Ystrad Mynach college and enjoyed music. Stephe\
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(Chris Morgan explained that under \221job centre plus\222 there were mov\
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(David from Neath used a wheelchair with special adaptations and could no\
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(The Welsh Local Government Association would be providing a response to \
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