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(Francois Samuel said that whilst the role of the existing housing stock \
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(On the proposed EC Directive on the Energy Performance of Buildings it w\
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(The effect of ventilation on houses at risk from Radon gas was discussed\
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(Concern was expressed that a lack of skills training could prevent furth\
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(It was recognised that data regarding the condition of housing stock and\
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(LAs were now collecting energy efficiency data on public sector stock, t\
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(information regarding the private sector was a problem. The Assembly had\
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Home )Tj
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(Concern was expressed regarding the lack of impact of HECA and Francois \
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(Samuel confirmed that the WLGA were keen to provide strategic support to\
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(A large proportion of homes in Wales are of solid wall construction and \
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(Some members felt that further information was needed before a draft rep\
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(also indicated that they felt it was necessary to have further informati\
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(Item 3: Energy Review \226 Draft Pre-consultation report on Renewables.)Tj
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(Discussion focused on the target level of output from renewables that th\
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(Wales. Each would yield a different figure. Members also considered that\
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(report the implications of whichever level was selected in terms of the \
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(The Expert Adviser said that while in theory it was possible to express \
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(A member said that his estimate on the basis of existing plans and conse\
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(there was a solution to the problem of how to store electricity. He thou\
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(Members indicated some broad support for this analysis but caution was )Tj
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(Members commented that while a target of 4 TWh by 2010 might be realisti\
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(There was some discussion of whether the target should be seen primarily\
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(Members concluded that they were not in a position to set a firm target.\
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(Item 4- Minister\222s report)Tj
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(The Minister opened the discussion with a brief personal statement in wh\
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(Updating his written report orally, the Minister referred to the imposit\
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(wholehearted support for action to be taken in response by the UK Govern\
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(The Minister referred to recent announcements about developments at DARA\
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(Members expressed their wholehearted support for the action being taken \
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(Concern was expressed that this might prove to be the beginning of a \221\
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(closure and hoped that this time they would be more positive and proacti\
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(Members were disappointed that in his report the Minister had indicated \
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(Members welcomed the news that the questions about the status of the WTB\
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(Members welcomed the reduction in BT prices for broadband ADSL and noted\
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(A number of members had received letters from Business Connect in Angles\
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(Members referred to representations they had received from the Wales TUC\
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(The Minister welcomed the report and emphasised the degree of cross Auth\
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(Members felt that the analysis in the report was good and a clear strate\
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(Some members felt that whilst it was imperative for funds to be allocate\
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(Members welcomed the commitment to the Ebbw Vale Learning Centre but sai\
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(There was concern that the report lacked timescales, targets and monitor\
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(Members felt that other Committees should consider the report as well, a\
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(Concluding the discussion the Minister told members that this was not an\
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(He said that the \24366m available for the framework was available as a \
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(He said that connectivity was a priority of both Cymru Arlein and A Winn\
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(The Minutes of 13 February were agreed as true records of the meeting.)Tj
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